Forced Subtitles Mamma Mia Here We Go Again

Don't go wasting your emotion. At that place's no utilize getting upset about the sloppy framing of something like Mamma Mia! Here We Go Again, the cinematic equivalent of a gold retriever puppy—panting, happy-become-lucky, near pathologically eager to please. It'south got catchy tunes, and sunny skies, and the widest bell-bottoms in all the state; it casts Andy García as a mysterious hunk named Fernando, solely for the purpose of carting out Cher to belt ABBA's 1976 striking "Fernando." It gives the people what they want.

But all the same: Mamma Mia! Hither We Go Once again—which should ideally be referred to past its consummate canonical title, assertion indicate included—plays fast and loose with time and space, enough to occasionally distract from the moving-picture show'southward myriad pleasures. At least, if you lot're the kind of nut who'due south kept awake at night by questions well-nigh how the cars in Cars make baby cars. (Warning: spoilers and excessive pedantry follow.)

The problem starts in the film'south Godfather: Part II-esque flashbacks, which illustrate that crazy summer when Donna Sheridan (in her younger years, played past Lily James; in her older years, played past a pair of overalls filled with Meryl Streep) found love three times over with a trio of eligible foreign bachelors. Her story begins in May or June of 1979, when she's somewhere around 22 years old—which nosotros know because of a helpful chyron that appears on-screen merely before Immature Donna unleashes a problematic ABBA B side at her higher graduation.

The year 1979 is perfectly fine; just ask Baton Corgan. However! Donna's wild youth was too the focus of a musical number in the first movie: "Our Terminal Summer," sung sweetly in that flick's present day by her grown-up suitors. (Yes, fifty-fifty Pierce Brosnan.) According to Bill, the aging Casanova Stellan Skarsgård plays, their trysts with Donna happened during "the fourth dimension of the Bloom Power," which would actually place their last summer sometime long before 1979—in the late 1960s or early 1970s, according to my precise, scientific calculations. Cursory flashes of Brosnan and Skarsgård in young-person elevate also support this idea; they're dressed like regulation hippies.

"Our Final Summer" may non be entirely reliable; it does, after all, encourage us to rhyme "Seine" with "rain." But the timing it implies actually makes more sense than the timeline established in the second movie, since Skarsgård, Brosnan, and Streep are all in their mid- to tardily-60s in real life, and would therefore have been appropriately bright-eyed and bushy-tailed during that earlier era. But none of these people were anywhere shut to 22 in 1979, as Donna plainly was. (Colin Firth, who plays the third man in Donna's life, is but 57—a relative spring chicken, though still not quite old enough to make the timing work. Peradventure that's why Brosnan and Skarsgård are given bully wigs in their flashback, but Firth is fabricated over as a Johnny Rotten-loving punk—an emissary of yet another era.)

However! To complicate matters further, in the first movie, Donna'southward daughter, Sophie (Amanda Seyfried)—the issue of i of her Last Summertime trysts—is supposed to be 20 years old. And that motion picture came out in 2008. And 2008 does not come up 20 years after the belatedly 1960s or early on 1970s, or even 1980, when Sophie was actually built-in, according to the new moving picture's chronology. And while it's perfectly possible that Mamma Mia! was released in 2008 but not gear up in 2008, there's no indication in the pic itself that we're meant to exist watching a menses piece, unless the flow in question is "fever dream, circa someday." Could information technology be that the beginning film is actually set in 1999, when the stage version of Mamma Mia! premiered in London, or 2001, when it premiered on Broadway? It is literally impossible to know for sure.

However! It's likewise nigh on impossible to determine how much time has elapsed between the events of Mamma Mia! and the events of Hither Nosotros Get Over again. In real life, it's been 10 years; in Hither We Go Once again, everyone certainly looks similar they've aged about a decade. There's a whole comic fix slice well-nigh it, when a passport-taker riffs at excruciating length almost how cruel time has been to poor Skarsgård!

Yet Bill, at one point, says that he'south a man in his fifties, implying that Skarsgård is playing someone significantly younger than the actor is in real life—which fits the timeline established in Hither We Get Once more, simply does not fit the prove earlier our very eyes. And at another point, Sophie tells Cher's character—who plays the Sheridan family unit matriarch—that she'south "about 25 years likewise late" to start acting similar Sophie's grandmother. Which would point that only v years take passed betwixt movies.

Yet! If that's truthful, and it's therefore supposed to be 2005—according to Here We Go Again's retconned timeline—how does Nib's female acquaintance take an iPhone, a device that wasn't released to the public until 2007? Did she get an early on prototype considering Bill has been named Earth's Greatest Swede, or whatever the made-upward laurels that most prevents him from coming to Sophie'south assist is called? (Side note: was that literary stardom, bestowed by some sort of Swedish university, supposed to be . . . the Nobel Prize?!)

Plus: Cher—her character has a name, simply let's be existent: who cares?—says that she met Fernando in Mexico in 1959, a year in which Cher herself was 13, and Andy García was all of three years quondam. Only why would the movie work so hard to age these characters up, while simultaneously desperately trying to historic period down the Meryl generation? What was in the air that night, Fernando?

And speaking of which: Have we collectively decided non to be bothered about the fact that 72-year-old Cher is apparently old plenty to exist 69-year-former Meryl Streep'southward mother, and 32-year-sometime Amanda Seyfried'southward grandmother? She'south too immature to play even 25-year-old Sophie Sheridan's grandmother, if Sophie is in fact 25!

Not to mention: Has Christine Baranski seriously had that aforementioned crisp Velma Kelly bob for the past 25, 30, or 39 years, depending on how we're counting? I mean, what are we to believe—that this is some sort of a magic xylophone or something?

So, yes: the merely possible determination is that the Mamma Mia! movies have place in a fabulous, sunday-soaked wormhole, a Mediterranean under realm beyond the limitations of what we mortals know as "time." That, or thrillingly lazy screenwriting. The prosecution rests.

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Source: https://www.vanityfair.com/hollywood/2018/07/mamma-mia-here-we-go-again-timeline-what-year-is-it

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